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isn't age 60 rather too old to be driving F1 car at 180 MPH?
and why is the negtro so dark skinned?

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On 6/20/25 16:24, Nomen Nescio wrote:

isn't age 60 rather too old to be driving F1 car at 180 MPH?

I will suggest that you are combining several different subjects
in one line.

Age 60 is decidedly old for F1.

Age 60 is fine for competitive amateur motor racing.

Age 60 is fine for 180 mph.
Totally depends on type of car and the track.


Paul Newman
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Paul_Newman
... his age as its number: 81. He took the pole in his last professional
race, in 2007 at Watkins Glen International, and in a 2008 run at Lime
Rock ...
On screen and stage
List of awards and...
Paul Newman (disambiguation)
Driver: Paul Newman

Driver Database
https://www.driverdb.com › drivers › paul-newman
Driver Information: nationality American, birthday 25 Jan 1925, hometown Shaker Heights, Ohio, died 25 Sep 2008 Westport, Connecticut.
Paul Newman: A Star Who Kept on Racing Until His 80s

Škoda Motorsport
https://www.skoda-motorsport.com › paul-newman-star...
May 8, 2018 — The number on his car, 82, symbolized his age. He was
listed as PL Newman, but to people outside racing, he was better known
as Paul Newman, the ...
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On 6/23/25 08:29, a425couple wrote:

On 6/20/25 16:24, Nomen Nescio wrote:

isn't age 60 rather too old to be driving F1 car at 180 MPH?

I will suggest that you are combining several different subjects
in one line.

Age 60 is decidedly old for F1.

Age 60 is fine for competitive amateur motor racing.

Age 60 is fine for 180 mph.
Totally depends on type of car and the track.

Paul Newman
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Paul_Newman
... his age as its number: 81. He took the pole in his last professional race, in 2007 at Watkins Glen International, and in a 2008 run at Lime
Rock ...
On screen and stage
List of awards and...
Paul Newman (disambiguation)
Driver: Paul Newman

Driver Database
https://www.driverdb.com › drivers › paul-newman
Driver Information: nationality American, birthday 25 Jan 1925, hometown Shaker Heights, Ohio, died 25 Sep 2008 Westport, Connecticut.
Paul Newman: A Star Who Kept on Racing Until His 80s

Škoda Motorsport
https://www.skoda-motorsport.com › paul-newman-star...
May 8, 2018 — The number on his car, 82, symbolized his age. He was
listed as PL Newman, but to people outside racing, he was better known
as Paul Newman, the ...
Missing: RunOffs? ‎| Show results with: RunOffs?

Specificly, more on Newman:

Paul Newman (1925–2008)

Sports Car Digest
https://sportscardigest.com › paul-newman-1925-2008
At the Rolex 24 at Daytona in 1995, he became the oldest driver to score
a major professional race victory when, at age 70, he shared the
GTS1-winning Roush ...
PL Newman from Lime Rock Connecticut

DrivingLine
https://www.drivingline.com › articles › pl-newman-fro...
Apr 17, 2012 — He qualified on pole - at the ripe old age of 82 years
old! ... Paul and his GT-1 Corvette to Lime Rock for one last hurrah.
Newman ...



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On 6/20/25 16:24, Nomen Nescio wrote:

isn't age 60 rather too old to be driving F1 car at 180 MPH?

So, Nomen, what did you think of the movie?
I thought the movie "Rush" (2013) was pretty well done.
I have not seen this latest one.

I guess Nomen did not like my earlier answers to age.
I'll try again,

Oldest Grand Prix Winners
OOldest drivers to win a F1 race

#12 Lewis Hamilton 39y 6m Do you think he might win again?
#9 G. Hill 40y
#7 Mansell 41y

5: Jack Brabham – 43 years, 339 days – South Africa 1970
The age bracket drops slightly when it comes to the oldest drivers to
have won a race, with Brabham claiming the last of his 14 Grand Prix
victories at South African venue Kyalami in 1970. Comparing then and
now, the Australian three-time world champion was just over a year older
than Alonso, who will turn 43 this summer.

4: Piero Taruffi – 45 years, 219 days – Switzerland 1952

3: Juan Manuel Fangio – 46 years, 41 days – Germany 1957
Talking of different brands, Fangio racked up five titles with four manufacturers from 1951 to 1957, and it was during the latter year that
he clinched his 24th and final win at the Nurburgring. Opting to
complete a pit stop while Ferrari pair Peter Collins and Mike Hawthorn
stayed out, Fangio brilliantly charged his way past them for a famous
triumph.

2: Giuseppe Farina – 46 years, 276 days – Germany 1953

1: Luigi Fagioli – 53 years, 22 days – France 1951
Fagioli appears in this feature for a second time courtesy of that
part-drive to victory at Reims-Gueux in 1951, where he ticked off the
opening 20 laps before handing over to team mate and title contender
Fangio. At 53, he was some 10 years older than Alonso’s current age in
an era where drivers often raced through their 40s and 50s.






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On 6/25/2025 9:44 AM, a425couple wrote:

Fagioli appears in this feature for a second time courtesy of that part- drive to victory at Reims-Gueux in 1951, where he ticked off the opening
20 laps before handing over to team mate and title contender Fangio.

"Handing over" is rather euphemistic; he was ordered to swap his healthy
Alfa Romeo with team leader Fangio (whose car was sick) and quit the
team in disgust after the race.
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On 6/25/25 07:19, Mark Jackson wrote:

On 6/25/2025 9:44 AM, a425couple wrote:

Fagioli appears in this feature for a second time courtesy of that
part- drive to victory at Reims-Gueux in 1951, where he ticked off the
opening 20 laps before handing over to team mate and title contender
Fangio.

"Handing over" is rather euphemistic; he was ordered to swap his healthy Alfa Romeo with team leader Fangio (whose car was sick) and quit the
team in disgust after the race.

Yes, indeed, when one is a good driver, and ordered by boss to turn over
your car over to the team's 'younger' star, would be disgusting.

As one wiki says,
"By the end of World War II, Fagioli's health had improved and at
52-year-old he joined Alfa-Romeo's 1950 Formula One squad for the first
ever FIA World Championship. Fagioli drove the 158/159 Alfetta, and
managed to score five podium finishes in six races, entering the final
round as one of three drivers in contention for the title. Giuseppe
Farina eventually won the championship, with Juan-Manuel Fangio
finishing second and Fagioli third. In 1951 Fagioli won the French Grand
Prix with Juan-Manuel Fangio, earning the distinction of being the
oldest person to ever win a Formula One race."
and
""Fagioli was allegedly so disappointed with this arrangement that he
elected to retire from Formula One racing there and then."

But, fate can be unpredictable and fickle. If it were not for
that 'shared' win, we would have less reason to remember Fagioli.
Perhaps, it's like a touch of immortality.

Because Fagioli had only qualified 8th, 8 seconds a lap slower than
Fangio. Most likely if he had run the whole race, the Ascari/Gonzales,
and Viloressi cars would have beaten him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_French_Grand_Prix

sad addition,
"In June 1952, while practising for the Monaco Grand Prix, which was a
sport cars event that year, Fagioli crashed during practice in the
tunnel. His injuries, initially believed to be minor, worsened after a
few days. Fagioli died in a Monte Carlo hospital three weeks later."

I rejoice at the number of extra years of racing I got to enjoy
because of our modern safe race cars.



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