• Passive voice

    From Sir Tim@no_email@invalid.invalid to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tuesday, June 03, 2025 12:20:16
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    Typical of Max that he says, “It shouldn’t have happened” rather than, “I
    shouldn’t have done it.”
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    Sir Tim
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  • From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tuesday, June 03, 2025 08:30:38
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    On 6/3/25 05:20, Sir Tim wrote:
    Typical of Max that he says, “It shouldn’t have happened” rather than, “I
    shouldn’t have done it.”

    Motorsport.com has a story titled "Why is it so difficult for F1
    drivers to say 'I'm sorry' "

    IMHO many of them are just so hyper focused on winning "it" all
    in F1. Senna was a leader in a very bad trend.
    When you would rather crash out in crashing your team mate
    into the pitwall in the middle of 'start/finish' straight
    rather then finish 2nd in one GP - it's crossed over into
    ridiculous.





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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tuesday, June 03, 2025 10:02:43
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    On 2025-06-03 08:30, a425couple wrote:
    On 6/3/25 05:20, Sir Tim wrote:
    Typical of Max that he says, “It shouldn’t have happened” rather than, “I
    shouldn’t have done it.”

    Motorsport.com has a story titled "Why is it so difficult for F1
    drivers to say 'I'm sorry' "

    IMHO many of them are just so hyper focused on winning "it" all
    in F1.  Senna was a leader in a very bad trend.

    I'm sorry, but I'll have to disagree with that.

    When you would rather crash out in crashing your team mate
    into the pitwall in the middle of 'start/finish' straight
    rather then finish 2nd in one GP - it's crossed over into
    ridiculous.

    Are you referring to Rosberg and Hamilton at the 2016 Spanish Grand Prix?

    First (and a minor nit), it didn't happen on the start/finish straight.
    It happened after turn 3 on the 3-4 straight.

    Second, it was never a matter of "rather" crashing. Rosberg started an aggressive defence, and Hamilton thought he could try the pass anyway.

    Neither driver was doing it because they rather crash, but because in
    those instants they were making the decisions, the believed they were
    making the right one.

    Now coming back to Senna, what Prost did at the 1989 Japanese Grand Prix
    was what set Senna on a course to do something very similar the very
    next year.

    I've watched the video of the 1989 incident in the final chicane, and
    there is no doubt in my mind that Prost deliberately turned in so early
    that if Senna hadn't been where he was, Prost would have been four
    wheels off the track driver's right; missing the correct line through
    the first half of the chicane entirely. In other words, the only reason
    he did what he did was to drive into Senna, because he knew that if he
    took them both out, he would win the WDC.

    That set the terms of engagement for the next year where the shoe was on
    the other foot.

    I don't think Senna would have deliberately (and yes: I believe it was absolutely deliberate, too) driven into any other driver to win the championship. But it was Prost and Prost had done it to him just one
    year before.
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  • From Woozy Song@suzyw0ng@outlook.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wednesday, June 04, 2025 10:29:27
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    Sir Tim wrote:
    Typical of Max that he says, “It shouldn’t have happened” rather than, “I
    shouldn’t have done it.”



    That might actually be middle voice (doesn't have both subject and
    object). Any grammar Nazis here?
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  • From Geoff@geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thursday, June 05, 2025 12:59:45
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    On 4/06/2025 2:29 pm, Woozy Song wrote:
    Sir Tim wrote:
    Typical of Max that he says, “It shouldn’t have happened” rather than, “I
    shouldn’t have done it.”



    That might actually be middle voice (doesn't have both subject and
    object). Any grammar Nazis here?

    In the first, 'It' is both the subject and the object.

    In the second 'I' is the object, and 'it' is the subject.

    And the third, you forgot the 'Are there ...' to make it a full sentence
    , and a question.
    --
    geoff
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