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On 5/27/25 01:57, Yazoo wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2025 17:02:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-05-26 16:46, Geoff wrote:
Many blamed the 'compulsory 2-stop' rule for disadvantaging cars/teams
stuck behind others doing their own strategies.
The answer - overtake them, just as you would have to in order to gain a >>> place without the new rule !
Yes, not easy at Monaco. but never has been whatever the regs.
Meh.
I'm glad they tried something new to spice up a race that has been a
procession for decades.
Did it work? No, not really.
Yeah, mixed feelings.
Monaco has historical status as "the" race.
But actual racing has been almost impossible for years now. Cars are
too big for this narrow streets.
And nothing can solve this problem.
Did you see the old car alongside the new one? The old one looks like
a toy compared to the new one. Current cars are huge, too big for
these streets of Monaco.
I agree with the great problems created by modern cars huge size.
In this article Alexander Wurz discusses 3 feasible solutions.
(He certainly knows the subject!)
citation - go to it, to view pictures.
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/three-feasible-ways-to-create-monaco-overtaking-wurzs-proposals-explained/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKh1HtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFtdWVlNTlnbXdNV0kya1dmAR5T8YTBZInGQrS57CEink8iw8TXALlauzdT_Z7wvKXNj5L1RoQAcH96QjQ65A_aem_GOqjA8u77csxx8mN9o-raQ
Three feasible ways to create Monaco overtaking - Wurz's proposals explained May 26, 2025
by Jon Noble
4 min read
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Grand Prix Drivers' Association chairman Alex Wurz has outlined three
feasible ways that Monaco's Formula 1 circuit can be improved to help overtaking.
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Following another weekend of frustration over the lack of passing opportunities on the Monte Carlo street circuit - accentuated by the controversial team manipulation the situation triggered - there has been renewed talk about the need for potential tweaks to the layout.
And while the physical limitation of the harbourside venue and buildings
makes it difficult to see where a major overhaul could happen, former F1
racer Wurz has outlined three tweaks that could be easily achieved to
deliver an improvement.
Wurz's ideas carry some weight because he has huge experience of what is needed for successful race circuits through his track design company
Wurz Design.
He is working on the new Qiddiya circuit in Saudi Arabia as well as
designing a potential F1 venue in Rwanda.
In a video he posted on Instagram of a presentation of potential Monaco
track changes, Wurz outlined three areas that could be modified that
would help maintain the character of the circuit but open up better
racing and more importantly increase chances for overtaking.
1 Moving the Nouvelle chicane
The first area is a revamp of the Nouvelle Chicane after the tunnel.
Wurz's proposal, which has been discussed with fellow F1 drivers, is to
extend the tunnel exit and move the chicane further down towards Tabac.
"I am very convinced, from my own experience watching the races and
talking to my fellow drivers, that moving the chicane later, which
physically with the constraints any city has, should be possible," he said.
"It means the defending for this corner - which is quite easy to do,
with the kink and the bumps - will become more difficult."
One of the considerations that would need to be taken into account when working out where the chicane was placed would be ensuring that the
following Tabac corner was far enough away from the chicane exit that
drivers still had to lift off for it.
2 Reprofiling Rascasse
A simpler change Wurz suggests is to reprofile the Rascasse corner so
the apex is moved two or three metres further out.
This can be complemented with a widening of the track, although this has
to bear in mind a car park ramp that features on the outside of the turn
and cannot be moved.
Gary Anderson's idea for a Monaco layout change
Read more
Talking about how this improvement could change things, Wurz said: "When
this apex comes further out, the entry line will definitely change.
"You will open the corner much more for a divebomb, and that means any
driver ahead will either have to defend or accept he leaves the door open.
"If you're defending, you will come out much slower, so you're creating
a train behind you, and the pressure on all of the drivers will simply increase.
"I think this is a small trick, quite easy to realise, but should at
least engage in more fighting, more intense pressure, and perhaps
overtaking."
3 The Fairmont hairpin
The final opportunity that Wurz thinks exists to improve Monaco is to
widen the entry to the Fairmont (formerly Loews) Hairpin.
Wurz believes that there is an opportunity to expand the track by just
more than two metres here at both the entry and exit.
"It means drivers coming down have an easier opportunity to do a
divebomb," he said. "It means the lead driver will have to defend more,
so he will be slower.
"But the hairpin is very tight, so we need to also enlarge the track on
the exit, lose the kerb, and have asphalt all the way to this physical
wall, so we have the turning radius."
Wurz believes the value of this change is as much in creating overtaking chances for the following corners as at the hairpin itself, because
defensive lines there will compromise lines and momentum towards the tunnel.
"The real ideal racing line will not change from what it is…it will just lead into a little bit more defending…and therefore this corner will actually initiate the overtaking into the new chicane," said Wurz.
"And all that together should be an improvement for the overtaking and raceability in the streets of Monaco."
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