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Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his
chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
Ben Hunt
Ben Hunt
Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM


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Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
last Sunday.

Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place in
China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which has
prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.
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On 2025-03-25 7:09 PM, a425couple wrote:

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Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
Ben Hunt
Ben Hunt
Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM

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Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
last Sunday.

Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place in China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which has prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

I suspect that Tsunoda will fare little better than Lawson in the Red
Bull car.

As has been mentioned before, Tsunoda was barely better than Lawson when
they were teammates. Any hope that he will pull some performance out of
the bag at Red Bull is surely faint.

Max has managed to deal with the Red Bull car as well as he has because
-- and I hate to admit it -- he is a far better driver than most of the
field, and certainly better than Perez, Lawson or Tsunoda.

One might even suggest that for anyone other than Max, getting a seat in
the Red Bull car is a career kiss of death.
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On 26/03/2025 12:09 pm, a425couple wrote:

from
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Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
Ben Hunt
Ben Hunt
Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM

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Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
last Sunday.

Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place in China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which has prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

If true, brutal. But 'Li-um' hasn't done much to help himself.

And it's not really two races, it is one. The opener was simply a random crap-shoot.

Puts Perez's decline in perspective a bit too, as the car was tuned increasingly towards VERs specific preferences (or abilities).
--
geoff
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pP85PrR <darryl_johnson@rogers.com> wrote:

As has been mentioned before, Tsunoda was barely better than Lawson when they were teammates. Any hope that he will pull some performance out of
the bag at Red Bull is surely faint.

Max has managed to deal with the Red Bull car as well as he has because
-- and I hate to admit it -- he is a far better driver than most of the field, and certainly better than Perez, Lawson or Tsunoda.

One might even suggest that for anyone other than Max, getting a seat in
the Red Bull car is a career kiss of death.

Max *is* a better driver than most of the field, but at this stage it
looks like the RB is very much a handful. The number who have tried and
failed to wrestle with recent cars strongly suggest it's not simply underperformance by drivers. The fact that Max handles it better further suggests that - in addition to his superior skill - it's more suited
(maybe even tailored) to his driving style, particularly the fact he
likes the front-end quite unstable.

The question is, are RB following such an extreme design philosophy that
while they're putting Max into a great position for the WDC, are they
making it almost impossible for the second driver making the WCC much
harder?

I think it takes a brave driver to get into that seat right now; while
it's clearly a car with the potential to win races, I think

1. You are almost certainly not going to win on a day that Max
doesn't have issues.
2. You have a better-than-even chance that you'll underperform in
the car, and it could be career-ending.
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Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:

pP85PrR <darryl_johnson@rogers.com> wrote:

One might even suggest that for anyone other than Max, getting a seat in
the Red Bull car is a career kiss of death.

2. You have a better-than-even chance that you'll underperform in
the car, and it could be career-ending.

You say that, but I like what Albon's been doing recently. I also think
that Gasly's unceremonious bumping caused him no long-term harm; RB may
have pushed him, but they also provided the safety net, and he became a
better driver in that time.

I think I'm more positive about Tsunoda than many here; of course he's
no wunderkind, but I think he's a driver that has continued to learn and improve. Alas, he does it at a pace that's not a good fit for the main
team.

Phil
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On 26/03/2025 11:08 pm, Mark wrote:

pP85PrR <darryl_johnson@rogers.com> wrote:

As has been mentioned before, Tsunoda was barely better than Lawson when
they were teammates. Any hope that he will pull some performance out of
the bag at Red Bull is surely faint.

Max has managed to deal with the Red Bull car as well as he has because
-- and I hate to admit it -- he is a far better driver than most of the
field, and certainly better than Perez, Lawson or Tsunoda.

One might even suggest that for anyone other than Max, getting a seat in
the Red Bull car is a career kiss of death.

Max *is* a better driver than most of the field,

Undoubtedly. But it would be interesting to see how he goes in a car
other than the RB, that may not be so specifically tweaked to him.
--
geoff
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On 26/03/2025 11:05 am, Geoff wrote:

On 26/03/2025 12:09 pm, a425couple wrote:

from
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-closing-in-on-liam-lawson-
swap-with-yuki-tsunoda-for-japanese-gp/10707118/

Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP
Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his
chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
Ben Hunt
Ben Hunt
Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM


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Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next
week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
last Sunday.

Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place
in China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which
has prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

If true, brutal. But 'Li-um' hasn't done much to help himself.

And it's not really two races, it is one. The opener was simply a random crap-shoot.

Puts Perez's decline in perspective a bit too, as the car was tuned increasingly towards VERs specific preferences (or abilities).

History repeating itself, from the Vettel days. RB tends to design it's
cars around it's No.1 driver's idiosyncrasies.
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Na425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

from https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-closing-in-on-liam-lawson-swap-with-yuki-tsunoda-for-japanese-gp/10707118/

Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
Ben Hunt
Ben Hunt
Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM

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Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing
Liam Lawson, Red Bull Racing

Photo by: Sam Bloxham / Motorsport Images

Yuki Tsunoda is in line for a call up to Red Bull’s F1 team for next week’s Japanese Grand Prix - just as Motorsport exclusively reported
last Sunday.

Lawson has come under pressure after making a difficult start to the
season, crashing out of the Australian GP and was a lowly 15th place in China. The New Zealander has struggled to adjust to the RB21, which has prone to unpredictable handling and lacking in grip, which is not
inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

This is what should have happened before the season started - thoroughly
bad decision-making by RB.
Whilst I can’t see Yuki doing any better with the RB21 than Perez did with the RB20 I think this is actually very good news for Lawson. He now has a golden opportunity to vindicate himself and could end up having a really
good season.
--
Sir Tim
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In article <m4kpb5Fb0p6U1@mid.individual.net>, Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Na425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

from

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-closing-in-on-liam-lawson-swap-with-yuki-tsunoda-for-japanese-gp/10707118/

Red Bull closing in on Liam Lawson swap with Yuki Tsunoda for Japanese GP Luckless Lawson set for the drop and Tsunoda poised to finally get his chance to shine in Red Bull's main team.
inspiring confidence. His teammate, however, four-time world champion
Max Verstappen has fared better, but has still conceded he faces a
mammoth task in retaining the title this season driving the RB21.

This is what should have happened before the season started - thoroughly
bad decision-making by RB.

Red Bull have looked to be in utter chaos since the whole Horner scandal
at the start of last year. This is just a continuation of it, I think
they're circling the drain and they know it; new regs next year and
they're not expecting to do well, and it's already tearing them apart internally.

Whilst I can’t see Yuki doing any better with the RB21 than Perez did with the RB20 I think this is actually very good news for Lawson. He now has a golden opportunity to vindicate himself and could end up having a really
good season.

They've shit on the poor guy here, treated him very poorly, so I would
*love* to see Lawson consistently put the Racing Bull into the top 10 at
every race, ideally at least several places in front of Yuki, for the rest
of the year. :)
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