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DQ'd:

Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

Not a good day for Hamilton...

"Let Charles past!"
"Only when he's on my gearbox"
"Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).
--
John Milner
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On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

SNIP

I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.
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On 3/23/2025 6:54 PM, Eric wrote:

On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

SNIP

I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

Williams *leads* Ferrari on the tiebreaker. Albon's 5th in Australia -
and for that matter his 7th in China - is better than Ferrari's best
placing (Leclerc's 8th in Australia).
--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right
to tell people what they do not want to hear.
- George Orwell
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On 2025-03-23 7:03pm, Mark Jackson wrote:

On 3/23/2025 6:54 PM, Eric wrote:

On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

SNIP

I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

Williams *leads* Ferrari on the tiebreaker.  Albon's 5th in Australia -
and for that matter his 7th in China - is better than Ferrari's best
placing (Leclerc's 8th in Australia).

Oh wow, I never thought of that! I'll happily be reminding my
Ferrari-loving colleague of that fact at work tomorrow.
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On 3/23/25 15:54, Eric wrote:

On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

SNIP

I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

I did some visiting of old times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_Grand_Prix_results

Oh, Wow. New kid,

Hülkenberg first drove a Formula One car in a test for Williams in 2007.
His manager, Willi Weber, had organised the test after failing to
conclude a deal with Renault boss Flavio Briatore. The two-day test was
held at the Circuito de Jerez in Spain, and Hülkenberg outpaced
Williams's driver Kazuki Nakajima, and set laptimes 0.4 seconds slower
than Nico Rosberg.[13] Hülkenberg's performance at the test led to the Williams team signing him as a test driver, and he competed in several
test sessions in addition to racing in lower formulae.[13] His test
contract with Williams was extended for 2009, despite in-season tests
being banned from that season.[14] Hülkenberg would also act as the
team's reserve driver, in the event of the regular drivers being unable
to compete.

Williams (2010)
On 2 November 2009, Hülkenberg was confirmed to race for Williams in 2010.[15] Hülkenberg's teammate for his first season would be the
experienced driver Rubens Barrichello, who moved from Brawn GP which in
turn was bought out by Mercedes-Benz.

Hülkenberg made his debut at the Bahrain Grand Prix,


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Eric wrote:

On 2025-03-23 7:03pm, Mark Jackson wrote:

On 3/23/2025 6:54 PM, Eric wrote:

On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

SNIP

I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is tied
with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two weeks.

Williams *leads* Ferrari on the tiebreaker.  Albon's 5th in Australia
- and for that matter his 7th in China - is better than Ferrari's best
placing (Leclerc's 8th in Australia).

Oh wow, I never thought of that! I'll happily be reminding my
Ferrari-loving colleague of that fact at work tomorrow.

Getting both cars disqalified must go down in record books.
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On 3/23/25 17:37, John Milner wrote:

DQ'd:

Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

Not a good day for Hamilton...

"Let Charles past!"
"Only when he's on my gearbox"
"Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

Although its a shame to be disqualified, Leclerc should have been
disqualified for the flex-wing.
--
-------------

Godspeed for Assange
Amnesty for Snowden
Rehabilitation for heroes

Edmund
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On 24/03/2025 5:37 am, John Milner wrote:

DQ'd:

Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

Not a good day for Hamilton...

"Let Charles past!"
"Only when he's on my gearbox"
"Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

I found it really odd that Leclerc's car was weighed with a new front wing. After the accident on
the first lap, with the wing flexing so much I fully expected a meatball flag when they didn't
change the wing during the pitstop.

What do y'all think? I know it wasn't dangerous but the car wasn't meeting the specs vis-a-vis
flexible aero. It was obviously shedding drag at speed while still sitting in it's normal position
and providing downforce for slow corners.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville.

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On 3/24/2025 12:43 AM, Woozy Song wrote:

Getting both cars disqalified must go down in record books.

I believe Tyrrell retired that trophy in 1984.
--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right
to tell people what they do not want to hear.
- George Orwell
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On 3/23/25 21:43, Woozy Song wrote:

Eric wrote:

On 2025-03-23 7:03pm, Mark Jackson wrote:

On 3/23/2025 6:54 PM, Eric wrote:

On 2025-03-23 10:37am, John Milner wrote:

SNIP

I'm going to take this moment to enjoy the fact that Williams is
tied with Ferrari in the Constructor's championship for the next two
weeks.

Williams *leads* Ferrari on the tiebreaker.  Albon's 5th in Australia
- and for that matter his 7th in China - is better than Ferrari's
best placing (Leclerc's 8th in Australia).

Oh wow, I never thought of that! I'll happily be reminding my Ferrari-
loving colleague of that fact at work tomorrow.

Getting both cars disqalified must go down in record books.

Both disqualified yes, But for different reasons is unusual.

Surprising to me, Hamilton's plank wear,
but he seemed to have been over the curbs less than Leclerc.
And Leclerc underweight, interesting miscalculation.
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On 3/24/25 06:13, Mark Jackson wrote:

On 3/24/2025 12:43 AM, Woozy Song wrote:

Getting both cars disqalified must go down in record books.

I believe Tyrrell retired that trophy in 1984.

I think that memory 'bb's raining down in pit lane after
refueling accident' has to go down as real vivid memory.


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On 24/03/2025 11:50 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:

On 24/03/2025 5:37 am, John Milner wrote:

DQ'd:

Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

Not a good day for Hamilton...

"Let Charles past!"
"Only when he's on my gearbox"
"Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

I found it really odd that Leclerc's car was weighed with a new front
wing. After the accident on the first lap, with the wing flexing so much
I fully expected a meatball flag when they didn't change the wing during
the pitstop.

What do y'all think? I know it wasn't dangerous but the car wasn't
meeting the specs vis-a-vis flexible aero. It was obviously shedding
drag at speed while still sitting in it's normal position and providing downforce for slow corners.

Agreed. Not to mention dangerous, potentially (if not actually)
contacting the track surface.
--
geoff
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On 24/03/2025 10:50, ~misfit~ wrote:

On 24/03/2025 5:37 am, John Milner wrote:

DQ'd:

Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

Not a good day for Hamilton...

"Let Charles past!"
"Only when he's on my gearbox"
"Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

I found it really odd that Leclerc's car was weighed with a new front
wing. After the accident on the first lap, with the wing flexing so much
I fully expected a meatball flag when they didn't change the wing during
the pitstop.

Martin Brundle commented on this at the time, on Sky Sports. Apparently
it's OK under the regs to replace damaged parts before the weigh-in, presumably because the loss wasn't intentional.

Interestingly, the downforce was lost from the front left, which surely
helped this stressed tyre, thus giving Charles an advantage at towards
the end.

What do y'all think? I know it wasn't dangerous but the car wasn't
meeting the specs vis-a-vis flexible aero. It was obviously shedding
drag at speed while still sitting in it's normal position and providing downforce for slow corners.

--
John Milner
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In article <vrpdc0$2on3r$1@dont-email.me>, john.milner@gmx.com wrote:

DQ'd:

Hamilton (plank wear), Leclerc and Gasly (underweight car)

Yeah, that really was not a good day for Ferrari...

Was an interesting race, though, moreso than Australia imo as the weather
made that a bit of a freak show of an event.

I remain optimistic that the Ferrari is a car that will come good, soon,
but I do fear that their general ineptness when it comes to strategy will
be a problem.

Not a good day for Hamilton...

"Let Charles past!"
"Only when he's on my gearbox"
"Do it this lap!" (leaving the '...or else...' hanging in the air).

It subsequently came to light that it was Hamilton who first suggested
letting Charles past, and that FOM only broadcast part of the the communications (with Ferrari going so far as to accuse FOM of
intentionally misrepresenting the truth...). When reading the transcript
of the whole thng, it looks a lot more sensible; especially the bits where Lewis says he'll decide when Charles goes past and that he needs to be
close - he clearly means he'll yield at a point when he'll not have to
slow considerably and lose out too much to do so.
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