• Gun killings

    From governor.swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.democrats,alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 02:31:34
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    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record, representing a 14% increase from the year before, a 25% increase from
    five years earlier and a 43% increase from a decade prior.

    "Gun murders, in particular, have climbed sharply in recent years. The
    19,384 gun murders that took place in 2020 were the most since at
    least 1968, exceeding the previous peak of 18,253 recorded by the CDC
    in 1993. The 2020 total represented a 34% increase from the year
    before, a 49% increase over five years and a 75% increase over 10
    years." https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

    "The FBI found an increase in active shooter incidents between 2000
    and 2020. There were three such incidents in 2000; by 2020, that
    figure had increased to 40."

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022
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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com to alt.politics.democrats,alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 05:47:05
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    On Tue, 31 May 2022 02:31:34 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record,

    [yawn]
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    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in message news:qh3c9h5t05f49pdt6psd99njfu22ci0tae@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 31 May 2022 02:31:34 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record,

    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.





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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com to alt.politics.democrats,alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 11:22:30
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    On Tue, 31 May 2022 13:53:06 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >message news:qh3c9h5t05f49pdt6psd99njfu22ci0tae@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 31 May 2022 02:31:34 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record,

    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    And most of them were suicides, probably Democrats realizing how they
    fucked up by voting for Biden.
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  • From governor.swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.democrats,alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns on Wednesday, June 01, 2022 01:25:53
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    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 31 May 2022 13:53:06 -0400, "Scout" ><me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >>message news:qh3c9h5t05f49pdt6psd99njfu22ci0tae@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 31 May 2022 02:31:34 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record,

    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    And most of them were suicides, probably Democrats realizing how they
    fucked up by voting for Biden.

    What do you call a smart Democrat?

    You can't. There aren't any.

    What do you call a smart Republican?

    A Democrat.

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022 https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30
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    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record,

    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022 https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30
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    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b0ud9h5b4fchko5kprkgj6bb3b9a9pjfg2@4ax.com...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record,

    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your delusions.


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  • From governor.swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.democrats,alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns on Wednesday, June 01, 2022 21:07:13
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    On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 13:20:05 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:b0ud9h5b4fchko5kprkgj6bb3b9a9pjfg2@4ax.com...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record,

    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your >delusions.


    The discussion is about domestic gun deaths and you want to shoehorn
    war into it?

    THE DISCUSSION IS *NOT* ABOUT WAR.

    Stop playing the same tired, old games. It's time to get outside the
    problem and look for solutions. These might include spending money on
    mental health. Add to school curricula things that certain parent
    don't teach their kids like proper socialization and responsibility
    for self. Challenge Hollywood to get away from violence in
    entertainment. Whatever it takes.

    What I'm trying to convey in all my discussions is that we need to
    work towards ways to change the culture. It's the only way to
    preserve the second.

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022 https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30
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    On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 13:20:05 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:b0ud9h5b4fchko5kprkgj6bb3b9a9pjfg2@4ax.com...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record,

    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your >delusions.


    Which is exactly what you did. When you didn't like the FACT that gun
    deaths have been trending upwards for decades, you tried to sidetrack
    the discussion with WAR which has nothing to do with domestic murder.

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022 https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30
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    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:l95g9hds3v5c0081trafk59voq7h1epg3s@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 13:20:05 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:b0ud9h5b4fchko5kprkgj6bb3b9a9pjfg2@4ax.com...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record, >>>>>
    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your >>delusions.


    Which is exactly what you did.

    Yea, I certainly did show you up but pointing out your presentation was
    wrong.



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    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:903g9h1llnisa0cb4hd50sklfn66ia2iil@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 13:20:05 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:b0ud9h5b4fchko5kprkgj6bb3b9a9pjfg2@4ax.com...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record, >>>>>
    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your >>delusions.


    The discussion is about domestic gun deaths and you want to shoehorn
    war into it?

    THE DISCUSSION IS *NOT* ABOUT WAR.

    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record"

    Where do you see ANYTHING about war in there?

    Where do you see anything about "domestic"?

    Don't blame me for the failure of your presentation.

    Besides...... If we're going to go there... then you can't found those
    deaths because they occurred during a war. Specifically "The war on crime", and crime is fighting back.

    Oh, and there are NO "gun deaths"... guns are inanimate objects that were never alive and thus can't die.



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    On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 08:30:26 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:903g9h1llnisa0cb4hd50sklfn66ia2iil@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 13:20:05 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:b0ud9h5b4fchko5kprkgj6bb3b9a9pjfg2@4ax.com...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record, >>>>>>
    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your >>>delusions.


    The discussion is about domestic gun deaths and you want to shoehorn
    war into it?

    THE DISCUSSION IS *NOT* ABOUT WAR.

    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record"

    Where do you see ANYTHING about war in there?

    You wrote: Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Where do you see anything about "domestic"?

    The entire thread has been about US gun violence, specifically mass
    shootings, and you know it. Changing the subject, moving the
    goalposts, rewriting history, call it what you will.

    The discussion is and has been about domestic gun violence *not* war
    or the gun grabbers wouldn't be in here talking about gun control.
    Nobody it their right mind would complain about military gun use,
    fool.

    You want to talk about gun death in wartime? Restricting weapons on
    the battlefield? Start a thread on it.

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022 https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30
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    On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
    On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 13:20:05 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your >>>delusions.


    Which is exactly what you did. When you didn't like the FACT that gun >>deaths have been trending upwards for decades, you tried to sidetrack
    the discussion with WAR which has nothing to do with domestic murder.

    Yea, I certainly did show you up but pointing out your presentation was >wrong.

    Creative editing and lying won't help you either.

    I wrote that gun deaths have been trending up for decades. That's a
    fact.

    You tried to deny it, you were wrong.

    Then you edited out part of what I said and tried to make it seem I'd
    said something else.

    Those tricks are for lamers who've lost the argument.

    If you don't think gun deaths have been trending up for decades, prove
    it. With credible, reliable sources. Pulling lies out your ass won't
    do the job.

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022 https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30
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    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:umsi9hl4mcbeh83jigj4eg2vhgg14t4ukg@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 08:30:26 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:903g9h1llnisa0cb4hd50sklfn66ia2iil@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 13:20:05 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:b0ud9h5b4fchko5kprkgj6bb3b9a9pjfg2@4ax.com...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    Pew Research Center February 3, 2022
    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record, >>>>>>>
    [yawn]

    Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your >>>>delusions.


    The discussion is about domestic gun deaths and you want to shoehorn
    war into it?

    THE DISCUSSION IS *NOT* ABOUT WAR.

    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record"

    Where do you see ANYTHING about war in there?

    You wrote: Bullshit.. many more gun deaths each year during WW2.

    I did... you didn't say it didn't include other times.

    ""The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record""

    Where does this say war or anything else is excluded?

    Where do you see anything about "domestic"?

    The entire thread has been about US gun violence, specifically mass shootings, and you know it.

    And you NEVER post anything that is about an other topic.

    Because the topic I see is "Gun killings".

    Seems to me that topic applies to ANY situation in which guns kill.

    Changing the subject, moving the
    goalposts, rewriting history, call it what you will.

    Well at least you're admitting that's what you're trying to do.

    Beside, your numbers really don't mean anything because you're looking at totals. If you were being honest you would be looking at per capita rates which eliminates population size as a factor.

    Because if you actually looked at that sort of data, you would realize how misleading your information is.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/ft_22-01-26_gundeaths_2/

    In this graph we see a HIGH of 7.7/100K back in around 1976 for homicide and
    a high of 7.2 around 1974... with a combined high around 1975..

    The CURRENT rates seem to be 7.0 for homicide and 6.2 for suicides.

    In other words the rate is DOWN... but you would like to try to get people
    to think it's worse now than before simply because of a change in
    population.


    The discussion is and has been about domestic gun violence *not* war

    "Gun killings"

    I don't seen the words domestic or violence anywhere in that subject header.


    or the gun grabbers wouldn't be in here talking about gun control.

    You will use any excuse to talk about gun control.

    So how should I know that the topic is limited only to your current talking point?


    Nobody it their right mind would complain about military gun use,
    fool.

    And yet I see people complaining all the time about the military being used.

    You want to talk about gun death in wartime? Restricting weapons on
    the battlefield? Start a thread on it.

    No problem, since you should now STFU.. and start your OWN threat about just what YOU want to lie about.

    Because here the topic is "Gun killings" doesn't matter when, where or how they happen. It would be in war, it could be in peace, it could be illegal,
    it could be legal, it could even be court ordered.. if someone died because they were shot with a gun, then that applies to THIS thread.

    So, if you want to play NetCop.. you should obey your own fucking rules.



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    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:s7ti9hp26tdgqdrj5qp6mnj85dddl5776u@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
    On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 13:20:05 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    Well, we certainly see how you feel with the facts don't conform to your >>>>delusions.


    Which is exactly what you did. When you didn't like the FACT that gun >>>deaths have been trending upwards for decades, you tried to sidetrack
    the discussion with WAR which has nothing to do with domestic murder.

    Yea, I certainly did show you up but pointing out your presentation was >>wrong.

    Creative editing and lying won't help you either.

    I wrote that gun deaths have been trending up for decades. That's a
    fact.

    No, they aren't when you look at rates which is how you SHOULD do it, otherwise an increasing population will be increasing the numbers even
    though nothing has changed in the situation other than the population.

    Are you going to blame gun deaths on people fucking?

    That's your current argument.

    The solution of such an argument would then seem to be to kill half the population. Gun deaths would then decrease by 50%

    It would also solve the housing problem, lower emissions, reduce highway traffic, etc, etc, etc,

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    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:07:16 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

    Because the topic I see is "Gun killings".

    Don't treat us like we're stupid, asshole. You know what we're
    talking about.

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022 https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30
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    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:17:05 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

    Are you going to blame gun deaths on people fucking?

    Are you going to continue being stupid?

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
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  • From governor.swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.democrats,alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns on Friday, June 03, 2022 22:09:00
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    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:17:05 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

    No, they aren't when you look at rates which is how you SHOULD do it,

    Then do it that way. Too lazy? I'll do it.

    Let's lay down a reference point with population growth.
    "Why U.S. Population Growth Is Collapsing" https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/03/american-population-growth-rate-slow/629392/

    "The U.S. population grew at the slowest pace in history in 2021,
    according to census data released last week. That news sounds extreme,
    but it’s on trend. First came 2020, which saw one of the lowest U.S. population-growth rates ever. And now we have 2021 officially setting
    the all-time record.

    "U.S. growth didn’t slowly fade away: It slipped, and slipped, and
    then fell off a cliff. The 2010s were already demographically
    stagnant; every year from 2011 to 2017, the U.S. grew by only 2
    million people. In 2020, the U.S. grew by just 1.1 million. Last year,
    we added only 393,000 people."

    If you had bothered to read the article I linked as a resource, https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
    you would have found this:

    "How has the number of U.S. gun deaths changed over time?

    "The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record, representing a 14% increase from the year before, a 25% increase from
    five years earlier and a 43% increase from a decade prior."

    Those numbers are clearly faster than population growth so guess what?
    You lose again.

    and

    "Gun murders, in particular, have climbed sharply in recent years. The
    19,384 gun murders that took place in 2020 were the most since at
    least 1968, exceeding the previous peak of 18,253 recorded by the CDC
    in 1993. The 2020 total represented a 34% increase from the year
    before, a 49% increase over five years and a 75% increase over 10
    years."

    Much faster than population growth.

    and

    "While 2020 saw the highest total number of gun deaths in the U.S.,
    this statistic does not take into account the nation’s growing
    population. On a per capita basis, there were 13.6 gun deaths per
    100,000 people in 2020 – the highest rate since the mid-1990s, but
    still well below the peak of 16.3 gun deaths per 100,000 people in
    1974."

    Bearing in mind with these figures,

    "In the CDC’s database, gun murders and gun suicides between 1968 and
    1978 are classified as those caused by firearms and explosives. In
    subsequent years, they are classified as deaths involving firearms
    only."

    So the next time I post information with a link, read and use the
    resource before you come for me.

    As it turns out, I need a bit of correction; the murder RATE trend up
    has been years rather than decades and the upturn has been very sharp
    recently.

    Swill
    --
    As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
    Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
    graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
    gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
    "to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
    - Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022 https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30
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  • From Scout@me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net to alt.politics.democrats,alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns on Monday, June 13, 2022 21:07:03
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    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:abdl9hdr3n654ajr5tmnvgshp88b0ni416@4ax.com...
    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:07:16 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

    Because the topic I see is "Gun killings".

    Don't treat us like we're stupid, asshole.

    Why should I treat you as something other than what you've shown yourselves
    to be?

    You know what we're
    talking about.

    I'm pretty sure YOU don't know what you're talking about, so why would you expect anyone else to?


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  • From Scout@me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net to alt.politics.democrats,alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns on Monday, June 13, 2022 21:07:29
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    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4edl9hlo0j96mbspmho8i9gtq0sopotkc6@4ax.com...
    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:17:05 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

    Are you going to blame gun deaths on people fucking?

    Are you going to continue being stupid?

    Just trying to keep it on your level.


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