• Re: food fite

    From fusion@21:1/616 to Digital Man on Friday, July 05, 2024 03:56:46
    On 03 Jul 2024, Digital Man said the following...
    Nope, those pipe functions are *not* present in the supported functions
    of MS-DOS v4.

    And indeed, from your linked reference:
    "This function was introduced by LAN Manager but is also supported by the Novell DOS Named Pipe Extender, Banyan VINES, OS/2 Virtual DOS Machines, and others" not [MS/PC]-DOS.

    Yes, so are you mad I didn't preface that with "You could install LAN Manager Client for DOS, Novell network support and use DOSNP.EXE or run inside a VDM using named pipes" ?

    First paragraph of https://helparchive.huntertur.net/document/61238 :

    "The Communications Server MS-DOS and OS/2 clients use named
    pipe connections to communicate with OS/2-based Communications Server computers."

    A problem someone was having with named pipes in MS-DOS with DOS LAN Manager

    https://library.thedatadungeon.com/msdn-1992-09/kbase/html/kbas5c4h.htm

    And a problem using named pipes with Windows 3.11 (interesting symptom for a DOS machine to have)

    https://jeffpar.github.io/kbarchive/kb/119/Q119106/

    And the manual for MS SQL states the DOS client support uses named pipes too, using a TSR like the Novell one does. I can't find the link anymore but I'm guessing that's why they added those functions to the NTVDM in the first
    place (they mentioned it was for DOS Point-of-Sale software).

    .. and in any case, you said "DOS programs" don't support named pipes. If you want to say that it isn't technically a DOS program if it uses interrupts
    that aren't supported on a plain install of MS-DOS 4, well, sure:

    <grabs his MS-DOS programmers guide>

    Nope, those pipe functions are *not* present in the supported functions
    of MS-DOS v4.

    MS-DOS 4 also didn't come with DPMI support. It didn't exist yet.. are those DOS programs or nah? :)

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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to fusion on Wednesday, July 10, 2024 19:33:48
    Re: Re: food fite
    By: fusion to Digital Man on Fri Jul 05 2024 03:56 am

    Yes, so are you mad I didn't preface that with "You could install LAN Manager Client for DOS, Novell network support and use DOSNP.EXE or run inside a VDM using named pipes" ?

    Mad? Not at all. Sorry if I gave that impression.
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